Chat Archive: 6/03/2002

This chat was run on June 3, 2002 from 9 PM EST to 11 PM EST. The topic was: Does God create good and evil?

Session Start: Mon Jun 03 16:57:55 2002
Session Ident: #usychat
[16:57] *** Now talking in #usychat
[16:57] *** Topic is '#usychat No topic right now. Chat at 9 EST!'
[16:57] *** Set by Jason_Lustig on Mon Jun 03 17:12:58
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[19:01] <Gregg`Roman> what?
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[19:01] <Gregg`Roman> hrmm
[19:01] <iampalestine2004> hey guys
[19:02] <Jason_Lustig> i'll talk to you privately
[19:02] <Jason_Lustig> hey guys
[19:02] <BICC_DUDE11> hey USY!
[19:02] <iampalestine2004> hey
[19:02] <Gregg`Roman> hey
[19:02] <BICC_DUDE11> EPA here
[19:02] <iampalestine2004> HAGALIL!
[19:02] <Gregg`Roman> your from jersey?
[19:02] <iampalestine2004> yup
[19:02] <BICC_DUDE11> naw
[19:02] <iampalestine2004> yea
[19:02] <BICC_DUDE11> PA
[19:02] <iampalestine2004> hey emily
[19:02] <Jason_Lustig> emily's not here
[19:02] <Jason_Lustig> she has her prom
[19:03] <Jason_Lustig> haha
[19:03] <iampalestine2004> oooo
[19:03] <iampalestine2004> ok
[19:03] <Jason_Lustig> oh wait, are you danny palestine? :D
[19:03] <iampalestine2004> i am
[19:03] <iampalestine2004> lol
[19:03] <BICC_DUDE11> whats up any1 here from EPA
[19:03] <Jason_Lustig> not yet
[19:03] <Jason_Lustig> the chat doesn't really start for 2 hours
[19:03] <iampalestine2004> true
[19:03] <BICC_DUDE11> gotchya
[19:03] <iampalestine2004> what's the topic again?
[19:03] <BICC_DUDE11> lol
[19:03] <BICC_DUDE11> oh yea
[19:04] <BICC_DUDE11> does g-d create good and evil
[19:04] <iampalestine2004> ok
[19:04] <iampalestine2004> let's not get into it now..but what's ur opinion?
[19:04] <BICC_DUDE11> i dont think so
[19:04] <Jason_Lustig> i think that g-d created the possibility to do evil
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[19:04] <Jason_Lustig> but that's just my opinion
[19:04] <iampalestine2004> i don't either..i think that he put us here..and let us serve ourselfes
[19:04] <iampalestine2004> xactly
[19:05] <BICC_DUDE11> Emily?
[19:05] <Jason_Lustig> let's lay off it until the chat starts, though, ok?
[19:05] <iampalestine2004> tru
[19:05] <Jason_Lustig> we can discuss it at 9 when everyone else shows up
[19:05] <Peanut> hey!!
[19:05] <BICC_DUDE11> yea
[19:05] <iampalestine2004> yea
[19:05] <BICC_DUDE11> lol
[19:05] <iampalestine2004> hey!
[19:05] <BICC_DUDE11> hey
[19:05] <Jason_Lustig> or else the whole topic'll be done before the chat starts :D
[19:05] <iampalestine2004> yea lol
[19:05] <iampalestine2004> where r u from peanut?
[19:05] <iampalestine2004> jason..where r u from?
[19:05] <Jason_Lustig> buffalo
[19:05] <Jason_Lustig> ny
[19:05] <iampalestine2004> o..region?
[19:05] <Peanut> harrisburg Pa
[19:05] <iampalestine2004> metny?
[19:05] <Jason_Lustig> tzafon
[19:06] <iampalestine2004> o
[19:06] <Jason_Lustig> you know where we are
[19:06] <Jason_Lustig> that place with all the snow ;)
[19:06] <iampalestine2004> kinda
[19:06] <iampalestine2004> lol
[19:06] <iampalestine2004> i know the bils
[19:06] <iampalestine2004> *billa
[19:06] <iampalestine2004> *bills..lol
[19:06] <BICC_DUDE11> lol
[19:06] <iampalestine2004> bicc..where r u from?
[19:06] <Peanut> haha
[19:06] <BICC_DUDE11> iight dudes and dudettes and every1 in between im out\
[19:06] <BICC_DUDE11> EPA
[19:06] <iampalestine2004> jason..r u on board?
[19:06] <iampalestine2004> later
[19:06] <BICC_DUDE11> BICC chapter
[19:06] <iampalestine2004> o ok
[19:07] <Jason_Lustig> no
[19:07] <Jason_Lustig> i ran for regional board but lost :(
[19:07] <iampalestine2004> o..then y du u have that little spider thingy?
[19:07] <iampalestine2004> o sorry
[19:07] <iampalestine2004> what did u run for
[19:07] <Jason_Lustig> communications
[19:07] <iampalestine2004> yea..i ran unopposed
[19:07] <Peanut> i have a question...does anyone know anyone who is on Bus E this summer on wheels?
[19:07] <iampalestine2004> what grade r u on?
[19:08] <Gregg`Roman> well out of the 6 peopel here, I doubt it :P
[19:08] <iampalestine2004> *in
[19:08] <Jason_Lustig> currently i'm in 11th grace
[19:08] <iampalestine2004> o
[19:08] <Gregg`Roman> jason?
[19:08] <Gregg`Roman> 11th?
[19:08] <Jason_Lustig> yeah
[19:08] <Gregg`Roman> really?
[19:08] <iampalestine2004> my friend was on f i think..it mite have been e
[19:08] <Jason_Lustig> in a couple weks i'll be a senior
[19:08] <iampalestine2004> judah lowenstien
[19:08] <Gregg`Roman> I thought you were in college :P
[19:08] <Gregg`Roman> me too
[19:08] <Jason_Lustig> hahaahh
[19:08] <Jason_Lustig> a lot of people think that
[19:08] <iampalestine2004> i'm only a soph
[19:08] <Jason_Lustig> it's kinda funny
[19:08] <Gregg`Roman> the only reason I didn't apply for Online services was because I'm not shomer :P
[19:08] <iampalestine2004> du u know him pnut?
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[19:08] <Gregg`Roman> that's because you have that buffalo address
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[19:08] <Gregg`Roman> that's what I assumed
[19:08] <Jason_Lustig> yeah
[19:08] <BICC_Dude11> im baaaaaaaaaaaaack
[19:09] <Jason_Lustig> i take calculus at the state universtiy of ny in bufalo
[19:09] <iampalestine2004> cool
[19:09] <Jason_Lustig> so i get a nice email addy
[19:09] <iampalestine2004> pnut..du u know him?
[19:09] <Jason_Lustig> know who?
[19:09] <iampalestine2004> judah lowenstien
[19:09] <Peanut> who?
[19:09] <Jason_Lustig> oh
[19:09] <Jason_Lustig> i have noidea who that is
[19:09] <iampalestine2004> he was on wheels..either on e or f
[19:09] <Peanut> no i dont think so
[19:09] <iampalestine2004> o ok
[19:09] <BICC_Dude11> lol
[19:09] <iampalestine2004> were u on wheels w/nebody from hagalil?
[19:09] <Peanut> no im on e this summer
[19:09] <BICC_Dude11> i know pnut
[19:09] <BICC_Dude11> lol
[19:10] <iampalestine2004> oooo
[19:10] <iampalestine2004> lol
[19:10] <iampalestine2004> hey guys..i'm out..ill b back on @ 9
[19:10] <iampalestine2004> toodles
[19:10] <Peanut> haha
[19:10] <Peanut> bye
[19:10] <iampalestine2004> later
[19:10] <Jason_Lustig> bye
[19:10] <BICC_Dude11> peace out cub scout!
[19:10] <iampalestine2004> bye
[19:10] <iampalestine2004> later cub
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[19:11] <Peanut> me?!?!
[19:11] <Peanut> lol, hey!
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[19:30] <Gregg`Roman> wheeee :P
[19:30] <Jason_Lustig> hehehehehe
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[19:34] <Jason_Lustig> hi
[19:36] <Gregg`Roman> bah
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[19:42] <BICCIFIED11> yea
[19:42] <Jason_Lustig> hey
[19:42] <BICCIFIED11> whats shakin crew
[19:42] <Jason_Lustig> nothing right now
[19:42] <Jason_Lustig> jut hanging out
[19:42] <BICCIFIED11> what time is the chat tonight?!
[19:42] <Jason_Lustig> 9 eastern
[19:42] <BICCIFIED11> gotchya
[19:43] <Jason_Lustig> yea
[19:43] <BICCIFIED11> im from EPA any 1 else
[19:43] <Jason_Lustig> so we've got like an hour left before we "officially" start
[19:44] <BICCIFIED11> iighty
[19:44] <BICCIFIED11> brb
[19:45] <Gregg`Roman> Hageshser
[19:45] <Jason_Lustig> yay tzafon!!
[19:46] <BICCIFIED11> yeap
[19:46] <BICCIFIED11> BICC!
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[19:58] <Jason_Lustig> yo
[19:58] <iampalestine> hey
[19:58] <iampalestine> cliel..du u know tania?
[19:59] <iampalestine> hey
[19:59] <Jason_Lustig> i know tania!!
[19:59] <iampalestine> me 2!
[19:59] <iampalestine> how du u know her?
[19:59] <Jason_Lustig> ummm
[19:59] <iampalestine> ic?
[19:59] <Jason_Lustig> through the chats
[19:59] <Jason_Lustig> no, i didn't meet her at ic
[19:59] <iampalestine> o me 2
[19:59] <Jason_Lustig> yeah
[19:59] <iampalestine> my friend met her and she knew who i was
[19:59] <Jason_Lustig> haha
[19:59] <iampalestine> yea
[19:59] <iampalestine> r u going to ic this year?
[20:00] <Jason_Lustig> oh yeah
[20:00] <Jason_Lustig> definitely
[20:00] <iampalestine> cliel..du u know her?
[20:00] <iampalestine> nice..i want to..but its xpensive..and my parents are out of work..so i dunno what i'm gonna do..i think i'll get a scholarship
[20:00] <Jason_Lustig> oh wow
[20:00] <iampalestine> eya
[20:00] <Jason_Lustig> that sucks that your parents are out of work
[20:00] <iampalestine> *yea
[20:00] <Jason_Lustig> that REALLY sucks
[20:00] <iampalestine> yea it does...but we'll get through it
[20:00] <Jason_Lustig> but that probably also means you can get a crazy scholarship from your region
[20:01] <iampalestine> yea i hope..lol..and i get $$ off cuz i'm on board
[20:01] <Jason_Lustig> or from your synagogue
[20:01] <iampalestine> tru
[20:01] <Jason_Lustig> yup yup
[20:02] <Gregg`Roman> brahhman
[20:02] <iampalestine> so i know u by name..but what are you into? give me a brief bio
[20:02] <Gregg`Roman> jason lustig, ASP G0d
[20:02] <Jason_Lustig> noooooo
[20:02] <Jason_Lustig> i don't like ASP
[20:02] <Gregg`Roman> haha
[20:02] <Jason_Lustig> i can use it
[20:02] <Jason_Lustig> but i dont like it
[20:02] <Gregg`Roman> PHP R0xx0rs ur B0xx0rs
[20:03] <Jason_Lustig> hax0r!!
[20:03] <Jason_Lustig> database guy
[20:03] <Gregg`Roman> I'm l33t
[20:03] <Gregg`Roman> yeah
[20:03] <iampalestine> ASP?
[20:03] <iampalestine> what is this stuff?
[20:03] <Gregg`Roman> Web page stuff :P
[20:03] <Jason_Lustig> it's a crappy microsith technology
[20:03] <Gregg`Roman> www.asp.net
[20:03] <Gregg`Roman> :P
[20:03] <Gregg`Roman> quiet you
[20:03] <Jason_Lustig> haha
[20:03] <iampalestine> o i c
[20:03] <Gregg`Roman> Take some tinsel and put it on the tree
[20:04] <iampalestine> we're all jews here
[20:04] <Gregg`Roman> Take a slice of melon and pretend you still love me
[20:04] <iampalestine> what r u talking about?
[20:04] <Gregg`Roman> Get in your car and crusie the land of the brave and free
[20:04] <iampalestine> hey i'm out..talk to u boys later..
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[20:04] <Gregg`Roman> dont forget to understand exactly what you put on the tree, dont pull in the forst when he tells you that the roses are free
[20:04] <Gregg`Roman> I like Phish
[20:06] <Gregg`Roman> oh well
[20:07] <Jason_Lustig> hehe
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[20:08] <someguy> hello
[20:08] <Jason_Lustig> hi
[20:08] <someguy> i'm in aza
[20:08] <Jason_Lustig> cool
[20:08] <someguy> its better than usy
[20:09] <Jason_Lustig> oh really?
[20:09] <someguy> yes
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[20:12] <Jason_Lustig> hey
[20:12] <im_a_BICC_Dude11> imm baaaack agail
[20:12] <im_a_BICC_Dude11> again*
[20:13] <Jason_Lustig> hi
[20:13] <im_a_BICC_Dude11> yea so no1 has been on since i last left?
[20:13] <Jason_Lustig> not really
[20:14] <Jason_Lustig> but remember, the chat doesn't start for another half an hour or so
[20:14] <im_a_BICC_Dude11> 9fun stuff
[20:14] <im_a_BICC_Dude11> lol
[20:14] <im_a_BICC_Dude11> ok we'll ill be back then!
[20:14] <Jason_Lustig> k
[20:14] <im_a_BICC_Dude11> in like 20 min
[20:16] <Gregg`Roman> Im in SAR
[20:17] <Gregg`Roman> but USY is better :P
[20:17] <Jason_Lustig> SAR?
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[20:18] <Gregg`Roman> emmy
[20:18] <Gregg`Roman> :P
[20:18] <Gregg`Roman> Sigma Alpha RHo jason
[20:19] <Gregg`Roman> www.sarfraternity.org
[20:19] <Gregg`Roman> jew frat :P
[20:19] <Jason_Lustig> aha
[20:19] <Gregg`Roman> AZA i think is another jew frat
[20:19] <Jason_Lustig> i think it has to do with bbyo somehow
[20:19] <Jason_Lustig> not sure
[20:19] <EMSTER> hi gregg!
[20:19] <EMSTER> im so excite for this!
[20:19] -ChanServ:#usychat- Jason_Lustig opped emily_sowalsky
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[20:19] -ChanServ:#usychat- Jason_Lustig opped EMSTER
[20:19] <EMSTER> oh cool, am i a blue person
[20:20] <Gregg`Roman> my eyes!
[20:20] <EMSTER> no, can i have a color?
[20:20] <Gregg`Roman> HEY!
[20:20] <Gregg`Roman> :PP
[20:20] <Gregg`Roman> I know all the IRC commands
[20:20] <Jason_Lustig> hi!!
[20:20] <Gregg`Roman> yeah you can :P
[20:20] <Jason_Lustig> hi hi hi
[20:20] <Jason_Lustig> hehehe
[20:20] <Jason_Lustig> hi
[20:20] <Jason_Lustig> hmmm
[20:20] <EMSTER> ill brb guys
[20:20] <Jason_Lustig> how do you get italics?
[20:20] <EMSTER> can you make me blue like you?
[20:20] <Gregg`Roman>
[20:20] <EMSTER> hi emily! i thought tonight was your prom?
[20:20] <Gregg`Roman> HEY!
[20:20] <Jason_Lustig> it is :-D
[20:20] <Gregg`Roman> she's not here I think
[20:21] <Gregg`Roman> Italics is...
[20:21] <Jason_Lustig> she just kinda left her chat client open before she left
[20:21] <EMSTER> oh
[20:21] <Jason_Lustig> haha
[20:21] <EMSTER> jason, im not blue
[20:21] <EMSTER> can you fix it
[20:21] <Jason_Lustig> let me see
[20:21] <Jason_Lustig> i don't know if i can make you blue
[20:21] <EMSTER> okay, i will be back in u momentos
[20:21] <Jason_Lustig> that might just be for the chat founder
[20:21] <EMSTER> make me a person like you
[20:22] <EMSTER> oh :o(
[20:22] <Jason_Lustig> hehehe
[20:22] <Jason_Lustig> you should have an @ sign
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[20:22] <randomusyer> hi guys
[20:22] <randomusyer> this is jason
[20:22] <randomusyer> in the usy website's chat client
[20:22] <randomusyer> ummmmm
[20:22] <Gregg`Roman> use IRC
[20:22] <randomusyer> emmy, you're definitely blue
[20:22] <Gregg`Roman> :P
[20:23] <Jason_Lustig> i'm in irc now
[20:23] <Gregg`Roman> Blue?
[20:23] <Jason_Lustig> yeah she's blue
[20:23] <Jason_Lustig> hey gregg
[20:23] <Jason_Lustig> how do you tell what you're listening to?
[20:23] <Gregg`Roman> Im on mIRC
[20:23] <Jason_Lustig> i know
[20:23] <Gregg`Roman> it's a script I made
[20:23] <Jason_Lustig> oh
[20:23] <Gregg`Roman> want the code?
[20:23] <Jason_Lustig> sure
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[20:24] * Gregg`Roman slaps Jason_Lustig around a bit with a large trout
[20:24] <Gregg`Roman> one sec :P
[20:24] <Jason_Lustig> haha
[20:24] * Jason_Lustig says hi to Hagalil_Dancer
[20:25] <Hagalil_Dancer> hi :)
[20:26] <Gregg`Roman> hehe
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[20:28] <Jason_Goldman> oh, im early
[20:29] <EMSTER> hi guys! welcome!
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[20:29] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> thats a change 20 more min
[20:29] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> lol
[20:30] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> ill go downstares and get some soda!
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[20:31] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> how do u listen to muzic
[20:31] <Gregg`Roman> 6 minutes :)
[20:31] <Gregg`Roman> Oh it's a special feature I programed
[20:32] <Gregg`Roman> programmed*
[20:32] <Gregg`Roman> Im using something different than you are
[20:32] <EMSTER> i can't see evryone on my user lsit
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[20:32] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> do we hear it or just u
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[20:33] <Jason_Lustig> hi guys!!
[20:33] <EMSTER> is that abby yanoff?
[20:33] <abby> haha yeah em
[20:33] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> hollla
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[20:33] <Jason_Lustig> hey abby
[20:33] <zorro253> hi, I am new to this. I never chatted before, but I thought the topic would be interesting
[20:33] <Jason_Lustig> you might want to change your nick
[20:33] <EMSTER> yay! i am proud to announce that we have 3 fantastic hagesherniks in here!
[20:33] <Guest8876> i know im doing it
[20:33] <Jason_Lustig> eh
[20:33] <Jason_Lustig> grat
[20:33] <iampalestine> get it up for hagalil!
[20:33] <Jason_Lustig> i have an idea
[20:33] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> YEA EPA?
[20:33] <Hagalil_Dancer> hi danny :)
[20:33] <iampalestine> heya
[20:34] <Jason_Lustig> on the count of THREE, everyone goes and IMs two people to join the chat
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[20:34] <Hagalil_Dancer> yea hagalil!
[20:34] <EMSTER> iampalestine?
[20:34] <EMSTER> whats with the name?
[20:34] <Jason_Lustig> danny palestine
[20:34] <iampalestine> yea..my name is danny palestine
[20:34] <Hagalil_Dancer> ,3haha
[20:34] <EMSTER> gotcha
[20:34] <iampalestine> yup
[20:34] <Hagalil_Dancer> haha
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[20:34] <iampalestine> Emster? what's w/the name?
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[20:34] <Gregg`Roman> her screen name is emster something
[20:34] <Gregg`Roman> so I guess it's her user name :P
[20:34] <iampalestine> o i c
[20:35] <Jason_Lustig> her name is emmy :)
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[20:35] <iampalestine> o cool
[20:35] <Jason_Lustig> hey look, ferman showed up
[20:35] <EMSTER> emmy, nickname +emster
[20:35] <Ferman> Hey!
[20:35] <EMSTER> =
[20:35] <iampalestine> i gotcha
[20:35] <EMSTER> yup!
[20:36] <iampalestine> what region r u from emmy?
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[20:36] <EMSTER> hagesher!
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[20:36] <iampalestine> o cool
[20:36] <EMSTER> the best region in usy!
[20:36] <Jason_Lustig> nope
[20:36] <Jason_Lustig> tzafon is the best!!
[20:36] <iampalestine> not @ all..u haven't been to hagalil baby!
[20:36] <Hagalil_Dancer> HAGALIL!!!!
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[20:36] <iampalestine> fo sho
[20:37] <EMSTER> ive been to hagalil.... hagesher is the best
[20:37] <iampalestine> not at all
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[20:37] <iampalestine> ECRUSYERS..DU U KNOW TANIA?
[20:37] <EMSTER> yay aaron!
[20:37] <MFerman-ECRUSY> B"H
[20:37] <MFerman-ECRUSY> yes...
[20:37] <EMSTER> 4 hagesher people!
[20:37] <aarongaynor> i can't stay for long
[20:37] <lyse> erm, yes. hagesher here.
[20:37] <aarongaynor> but i wanted to show my support for the region
[20:37] <EMSTER> aaron is also a member of the fabulous hagesher region
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[20:37] <EMSTER> who is lyse
[20:38] <lyse> aaron who?
[20:38] <lyse> elyse brier
[20:38] <aarongaynor> aaron gaynor
[20:38] <EMSTER> aaron gaynor
[20:38] <lyse> nope. dunno ya.
[20:38] <iampalestine> hence...aarongaynor
[20:38] <aarongaynor> that's me
[20:38] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> any1 here from EPA
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[20:38] <lyse> i'm a lil slow sometimes.
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[20:38] <EMSTER> everyone say your name and region
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[20:38] <Gregg`Roman> Gregg Roman Hagesher
[20:38] <iampalestine> Danny Palestine, Hagalil
[20:38] <aarongaynor> Aaron Gaynor Hagesher
[20:38] <lyse> elyse brier, hagesher
[20:38] <Jason_Lustig> jason lustig, tzafon!!
[20:39] <Stu_EPA> Stuart Glaser, EPA
[20:39] <EMSTER> Emmy Stup HAGESHER!
[20:39] <Metnygirl> Iris Feinberg MEtny
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[20:39] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> Hey stu!
[20:39] <abby_yano> abby yanoff, hagesher!
[20:39] <abby_yano> we win
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[20:39] <EMSTER> we def do!
[20:39] <aarongaynor> go hagesher
[20:39] <iampalestine> i'm listening to Timberwolves @ Jersey by taking back sunday..thanks for asking
[20:39] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> EPA is the best!
[20:39] <Hagalil_Dancer> Danielle Abigador HAGALIL!!!! o yea!!
[20:39] <lyse> whootwhoot
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[20:39] <iampalestine> o yea!!
[20:39] <EMSTER> we already establsihed that hagesher is
[20:39] <Gregg`Roman> www.hagesher.org
[20:39] <iampalestine> worse than hagalil
[20:39] <Gregg`Roman> cheap plug :P
[20:39] <suziemayer> hey
[20:40] <aarongaynor> thanks for the plug gregg
[20:40] <Hagalil_Dancer> i love the name sus
[20:40] <Jason_Lustig> www.tzafon.org!!
[20:40] <Stu_EPA> Hi bicci, whichever BIICCerite you may be
[20:40] <iampalestine> sus is a great name!
[20:40] <MFerman-ECRUSY> www.ecrusy.org!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[20:40] <suziemayer> i love the name elle
[20:40] <iampalestine> hagalilusy.com
[20:40] <Stu_EPA> www.epausy.org !!!!!! (made it meself)
[20:40] <Hagalil_Dancer> haha
[20:40] <Jason_Lustig> hey you all forgot www.usy.org
[20:40] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> Evan Starr!
[20:40] <Gregg`Roman> ey stu
[20:40] <aarongaynor> can we do hyperlnks in here
[20:40] <Gregg`Roman> you use ASP?
[20:40] <suziemayer> i love john mayer
[20:40] <Gregg`Roman> I'll play some john mayer than
[20:40] <Stu_EPA> 'fraid not. Just mIRC commands
[20:40] <suziemayer> good
[20:41] * Gregg`Roman thwaps stu :P
[20:41] <iampalestine> susie..as in the susie i know?
[20:41] <Hagalil_Dancer> i love john 2...i'm listening to him now
[20:41] <Jason_Lustig> i think that ifyou type a url it'll recognize it as a url
[20:41] <EMSTER> we have 2 more regional baord members coming in!
[20:41] <suziemayer> as in the palestine i kno?
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[20:41] <iampalestine> im on regional board!
[20:41] <EMSTER> and another rgb member!
[20:41] <suziemayer> as in my best friend?
[20:41] <iampalestine> as in...yes!
[20:41] <EMSTER> what position?
[20:41] <suziemayer> yay! hey danny!!
[20:41] <Jason_Lustig> uh oh
[20:41] <iampalestine> hey susie!
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[20:41] <iampalestine> communications vp
[20:41] <iampalestine> u?
[20:41] <Gregg`Roman> what happen jason? :P
[20:41] <EMSTER> president
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[20:41] <Gregg`Roman> happend*
[20:41] <suziemayer> im susie
[20:41] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> yea EPA!
[20:41] <iampalestine> on regional or chapter?
[20:41] <Jason_Lustig> nevermind
[20:41] <suziemayer> im in hagalil
[20:41] <Gregg`Roman> did it work?
[20:41] <Hagalil_Dancer> yrea hagalil!
[20:42] <iampalestine> emster...regional or chapter?
[20:42] <EMSTER> i luv your prez!
[20:42] <EMSTER> regional
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[20:42] <iampalestine> o cool
[20:42] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> who is who?
[20:42] <iampalestine> ariella?
[20:42] <suziemayer> ..jesse?
[20:42] <EMSTER> yesh
[20:42] <Jason_Lustig> why doesn't everyone introduce themselves
[20:42] <Jason_Lustig> say your name, region, and year
[20:42] <EMSTER> we were o the same bus this summer
[20:42] <iampalestine> how du u know her?
[20:42] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> iight
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[20:42] <suziemayer> im susie from hagalil in a soph
[20:42] <iampalestine> Danny Palestine, Hagalil...soph
[20:42] <aarongaynor> Aaron Gaynor, Hagesher, Junior
[20:42] <Metnygirl> iris from metny junior
[20:42] <Stu_EPA> Stu Glaser from EPA, also soph
[20:42] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> im Evan Starr from EPA Regeon and BICC ChapE
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[20:43] <abby_yano> Abby Yanoff!! Hagesher, Junior
[20:43] <zorro253> I am edie from crusy, soph
[20:43] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> fresh
[20:43] <Guest70115> Jessica from Hanegev and I'm a sophmore
[20:43] <MFerman-ECRUSY> Michael A. Ferman, ECRUSY, Super Senior (13)
[20:43] <IsraelGuy1948> hi abby of hagesher 
[20:43] <EMSTER> Emmy Stup, HAGESHER, Junior
[20:43] <iampalestine> SUPER senior to the rescue!
[20:43] <abby_yano> um hi
[20:43] <MFerman-ECRUSY> oh yes!!!
[20:43] <Hagalil_Dancer> Danielle from Hagalil - soph :)
[20:43] <IsraelGuy1948> Ira Stup, Hagsher - Freshman
[20:43] <Jason_Lustig> Jason Lustig, Tzafon, Super Junior (i.e. almost a senior)
[20:43] <IsraelGuy1948> WHEELS BUS C !
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[20:43] <EMSTER> IRA IS MY BROTHER!
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[20:44] <abby_yano> ohhhh hi! hehe
[20:44] <lyse> no, really?
[20:44] <EMSTER> hi izerman!
[20:44] <suziemayer> gregg- u like john mayer?
[20:44] <IsraelGuy1948> Emmy is my sister!
[20:44] <Gregg`Roman> yep
[20:44] <Gregg`Roman> Im going to see him and guster on tour
[20:44] <EMSTER> hes a chapter president!
[20:44] <Hagalil_Dancer> ahh!
[20:44] <Gregg`Roman> three dates
[20:44] <iampalestine> guster is amazing
[20:44] <Gregg`Roman> two in ohio
[20:44] <Hagalil_Dancer> ur so lucky
[20:44] <Gregg`Roman> one in pittsburgh
[20:44] <suziemayer> r u kidding id die to go i lvoe guster too
[20:44] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> EPA!
[20:44] <iampalestine> where?
[20:44] <Gregg`Roman> I know some of the roadies
[20:44] <IsraelGuy1948> who is Iampalestine?
[20:44] <iampalestine> me
[20:44] <lyse> him
[20:44] <Gregg`Roman> so I get to go backstage sometimes
[20:44] <EMSTER> his last name is palestine, i alrady checked
[20:44] <Gregg`Roman> Im touring with em
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[20:44] <Gregg`Roman> its gonna be fun
[20:44] <iampalestine> yea
[20:44] <IsraelGuy1948> why the deal behind your sn?
[20:44] <suziemayer> ahhh so u kno him?
[20:44] <iampalestine> Danny Palestine...hagalil region
[20:44] <Gregg`Roman> i've met mayer before
[20:44] <iampalestine> its my last name
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[20:45] <Gregg`Roman> nothin serious
[20:45] <suziemayer> oo he is great im listening to him now, what region r u from
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[20:45] <EMSTER> okay guys, we are starting now...
[20:45] <Gregg`Roman> Hagesher
[20:45] <Hagalil_Dancer> u met him?!
[20:45] <IsraelGuy1948> ok
[20:45] <EMSTER> heres what we are doing
[20:45] <Gregg`Roman> yep
[20:45] <iampalestine> yea
[20:45] <Gregg`Roman> Im big on the music scene
[20:45] <iampalestine> tell us please
[20:45] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> EPA IS THE GREATEST!
[20:45] <Gregg`Roman> I do a couple of their websites
[20:45] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> LOL
[20:45] <Gregg`Roman> oops
[20:45] <Gregg`Roman> let emmy talk
[20:45] <Guest70115> iws anyone going to internation convention in december?
[20:45] <Gregg`Roman> :P
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[20:45] <EMSTER> first, veeyrone say your name and region once so we know who is talking, and then we will get on with the chat
[20:45] <iampalestine> i am
[20:45] <EMSTER> cound good?
[20:45] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> im trying to go!
[20:45] <Stu_from_CHUSY> oy vey
[20:45] <iampalestine> Danny Palestine...hagalil
[20:45] <suziemayer> thats really cool ok
[20:45] <Stu_EPA> Hi other Stu
[20:45] <Gregg`Roman> Gregg Roman, Hagesher USY, Online Services Chairman
[20:45] <Stu_from_CHUSY> there is a LOT of people here already
[20:45] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> evan starr EPA
[20:46] <Metnygirl> Iris Metny
[20:46] <Stu_from_CHUSY> SAY WHAT?!?!
[20:46] <lyse> Elyse Brier Haghesher
[20:46] <IsraelGuy1948> IRa Stup-= Hagesher, Freashman
[20:46] <Hagalil_Dancer> Danielle Abigador - MIGHTY HAGALIL!!
[20:46] <Stu_from_CHUSY> there is another Stu?
[20:46] <Gregg`Roman> Gregg Roman, Hagesher USY, Online Services Chairman
[20:46] <Guest70115> well its going to be in orlando florida, thats where i live, i can't wait
[20:46] <Gregg`Roman> :P
[20:46] <Stu_from_CHUSY> oh yeah, the OTHER Stu.
[20:46] <Jason_Lustig> jason lustig, from T-Z-A-F-O-N
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[20:46] <MFerman-ECRUSY> Michael A. Ferman, ECRUSY
[20:46] <zorro253> Edie Portnoy- crusy
[20:46] <Jill> Jill EPA...although it may soon be hagasher
[20:46] <suziemayer> susie mac hagalil
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[20:46] <Stu_from_CHUSY> guess who I AM??!
[20:46] <Stu_EPA> sure is. Stu Glaser -- EPA (Rel/Ed)
[20:46] <IsraelGuy1948> FERMAN!! hey dude
[20:46] <sami_jess> samantha soloway from NERUSY!!!
[20:46] <sami_jess> are u stu from shusy??
[20:46] <sami_jess> chusy**
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[20:46] <IsraelGuy1948> hows my good frind Leora Jackson??
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[20:46] <MFerman-ECRUSY> Hey Ira!
[20:46] <Stu_from_CHUSY> heck yea
[20:46] <commhagesher> hhhhhi guys
[20:46] <abby_yano> abby yanoff!
[20:46] <iampalestine> hey..i'm comm hagalil!
[20:46] <IsraelGuy1948> whats goin onin Canada ?
[20:46] <Stu_from_CHUSY> Stu Schaff -- CHUSY LOSER
[20:47] <suziemayer> im doin to canada this summer, right elle? lol
[20:47] <iampalestine> who's elle?
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[20:47] <sami_jess> so what was the topic???
[20:47] <commhagesher> please excuse my typing if it gets bad my keyboard is kinda broke
[20:47] <Bubba-Ray-Roman> :P
[20:47] <Stu_from_CHUSY> so i forget.. what is the topic
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[20:47] <Stu_from_CHUSY> haha sami
[20:47] <Guest94585> what's an "agressive protector?"
[20:47] <Hagalil_Dancer> lol - i hope!
[20:47] <Hagalil_Dancer> i'm elle - it's my new nick name
[20:47] <IsraelGuy1948> reall thewre you fgoing?
[20:47] <Hagalil_Dancer> and gingi :)
[20:47] <iampalestine> o hi elle
[20:47] <iampalestine> o hi gingi
[20:47] <sami_jess> y ha ha sami???;)
[20:47] <MFerman-ECRUSY> who's coming to Canada?
[20:47] <suziemayer> lol i am!
[20:47] <Stu_from_CHUSY> i believe it is 9 EST, by the way
[20:47] <iampalestine> ok lol
[20:47] <Hagalil_Dancer> we are!
[20:47] <EMSTER> hi ferman! its emmy
[20:48] <Stu_from_CHUSY> so let's get thsi going
[20:48] <MFerman-ECRUSY> Hey Emmy!
[20:48] <Stu_from_CHUSY> ;)
[20:48] <IsraelGuy1948> i am! Toronoto and Montreal! WHEELS BUS C !
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[20:48] <abby_yano> emmy im getting impatient
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[20:48] <Gregg> haha abby
[20:48] <MFerman-ECRUSY> ah... Ira, things are going well... very busy
[20:48] <Stu_from_CHUSY> hello CHUSYite
[20:48] <IsraelGuy1948> thats good
[20:48] <suziemayer> ok chat time
[20:48] * Stu_from_CHUSY clears throad
[20:48] <xeon2500> Hello
[20:48] <EMSTER> okay, guys we are starting for real
[20:48] <Stu_from_CHUSY> ladies and gentlemen,
[20:48] <MFerman-ECRUSY> everyone's more than welcome to come to the great, giant Canada...
[20:48] <commhagesher> so what r we talking about here tonight
[20:48] <Stu_from_CHUSY> meat ben balter
[20:49] <iampalestine> hagalilers! get some more of us! i can't go on aol rite now so if u c nebody get them on here!
[20:49] <Stu_from_CHUSY> meet*
[20:49] <EMSTER> hi matt! he is my comm
[20:49] <xeon2500> STU!
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[20:49] <IsraelGuy1948> Okay everyone- im sorry i have to go - have a good chat!! AM YISRAEL CHAI!!!!
[20:49] <Stu_from_CHUSY> hello manna
[20:49] <Stu_EPA> yes?
[20:49] <abby_yano> 13emmy didn't say hi to me
[20:49] <Stu_from_CHUSY> nice to se eyou
[20:49] <EMSTER> where are you going iz?
[20:49] <Stu_from_CHUSY> YEAH!!! go CHUSY!!
[20:49] <suziemayer> ok ill invite dann how do i do it
[20:49] <IsraelGuy1948> WHEELS BUS C - HAGESHER FOREVER!! `
[20:49] <CHUSYcomm> hi stu!
[20:49] <IsraelGuy1948> hi abby
[20:49] <iampalestine> u don't..u just tell them to come here
[20:49] <IsraelGuy1948> bye bye
[20:49] <abby_yano> 13you guys are in like hte nextroom
[20:49] <feldy> hi
[20:49] <abby_yano> 13good night ira
[20:49] <Jason_Lustig> hi guys
[20:49] <sami_jess> what is the topic???
[20:49] <Jason_Lustig> i have a good idea
[20:49] <Hagalil_Dancer> feldy?
[20:49] <Jason_Lustig> let's talk about the topic!!
[20:49] <iampalestine> feldy?
[20:49] <Hagalil_Dancer> hi!
[20:49] <Stu_from_CHUSY> oy i am clearing my screen, let's start
[20:49] <iampalestine> hi
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[20:49] <Stu_from_CHUSY> what IS the topic
[20:49] <iampalestine> hey
[20:50] <iampalestine> lol!!
[20:50] <sami_jess> second of that ??
[20:50] <IsraelGuy1948> i have to say- jason lustig is quite a funny boy
[20:50] <Hagalil_Dancer> is this rachel feldman?!
[20:50] <feldy> suzie mayer?
[20:50] <EMSTER> k, guys, we are starting now
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[20:50] <sami_jess> yay
[20:50] <Gregg> Kenny!
[20:50] <MFerman-ECRUSY> So... good and evil
[20:50] <Hagalil_Dancer> from hagalil?!?
[20:50] <suziemayer> hey feldy?
[20:50] <Gregg> Whooaaaaaaa
[20:50] <suziemayer> i love u!
[20:50] <HagesherExecVP> Holla from Hagesher
[20:50] <feldy> haha
[20:50] <IsraelGuy1948> oh g0sh
[20:50] <IsraelGuy1948> kenny we're in a fight
[20:50] <EMSTER> two of my board members are here! hagesher is def dominating!
[20:50] <Metnygirl> what are we going to tlak about?
[20:50] <feldy> i love usy
[20:50] <suziemayer> kenny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[20:50] <iampalestine> hey feldman!! its danny!
[20:50] <feldy> hi danny!
[20:50] <Stu_from_CHUSY> we have 3 CHUSYites
[20:50] <Stu_from_CHUSY> and i will get m0re..
[20:50] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> Does God create good and evil?
[20:50] <iampalestine> no u wont!
[20:50] * Stu_from_CHUSY runs out the door
[20:50] <Jason_Lustig> /mode +m
[20:51] <suziemayer> whos kenny?
[20:51] <abby_yano> 13and abby. im the only one who matters from hagesher. but im really impatient nwo come on
[20:51] <iampalestine> just do it!
[20:51] <HagesherExecVP> Emmy who is here?
[20:51] * Stu_from_CHUSY runs back
[20:51] <EMSTER> matt, me, abby, ira
[20:51] *** Jason_Lustig sets mode: +m
[20:51] <EMSTER> lots of fun people
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[20:51] <EMSTER> gregg, gaynor
[20:51] <Jason_Lustig> hi guys
[20:51] <Jason_Lustig> i think we should stay on tpoic, ok?
[20:52] <Jason_Lustig> the topic is: Did God create good and evil?
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[20:52] <MFerman-ECRUSY> G-d is the source of all that is good in the world. He created everything out of nothing, which is a difficult concept for mankind to grasp let alone understand. Another basic tenet of Judaism is that G-d is perfect (Maimonides' Thirteen Attributes of Faith). If He is perfect, then why does he so often let evil triumph and evildoers flourish?
[20:52] <Gregg> You guys can talk now
[20:52] <Gregg> :P
[20:52] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> cuz he gave us free will
[20:52] <Stu_from_CHUSY> well, ... there is a plan methinks
[20:52] <IsraelGuy1948> Because humans are given free will-
[20:52] <feldy> haha suziemayer...i get it!
[20:52] <HagesherExecVP> Without evil then there cant be good
[20:52] <suziemayer> stay on topic fman!
[20:52] <HagesherExecVP> they need to both be there
[20:52] <IsraelGuy1948> but if G-d is omnipotent and all knowing- wouldnt he just know what were gonna do anyhow?
[20:52] <Stu_from_CHUSY> isn't a big tennant of Judaism to be able to "rassle with God"?
[20:52] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> true!
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[20:53] <Stu_from_CHUSY> haha... i said rassle
[20:53] <feldy> sorry
[20:53] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> lol
[20:53] <iampalestine> i think that got put us here..and then we could serve ourselves...if he were to create good and evil...then don't u think he would have stepped in at some points to steer us in the right direction? and then what's the deal with snake in the adam and eve story? the snake represneted evilness..but he didn't do anything to stop adam or eve?
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[20:53] <sami_jess> here is what i think, GD created all things good, He is in everything, be it good or evil but unfortunately in things that are "bad" there is something taht is .... like blocking it.. does that make any sence???
[20:53] <suziemayer> g-d layed lays everything out for us and we have to play with the cards we were dealt
[20:53] <iampalestine> xactly
[20:53] <EMSTER> but if God knows everything that is going to happen, is that really free will if it is already planned out?
[20:53] <Jason_Lustig> this is the way i see it
[20:53] <sami_jess> ,4eek, sorry bout the clor
[20:53] <commhagesher> god created man then for teh most part let man do what man pleases when it gets out of hand god intevenes
[20:53] <Jason_Lustig> God created the world
[20:53] <suziemayer> if some1 did everyting for us, we wouldnt be able to grow
[20:53] <Jason_Lustig> and by doing so, he created many possibilities of things to do
[20:53] <sami_jess> sorry about that
[20:53] <Jill> but how do we know what is good & what is evil...hitler thought what he was doing was good
[20:53] <Jason_Lustig> some are considered right, some are considreed wrong
[20:53] <Stu_from_CHUSY> ... and learn more about God>
[20:54] <iampalestine> i think he gives us the world..and then we use it to our own disgression..when was the last time he stepped in?
[20:54] <Jason_Lustig> and it's up to us to figure out what's right and wrong
[20:54] <EMSTER> let me give you guys a situation that sort of freaks me out...
[20:54] <suziemayer> thats true jill
[20:54] <HagesherExecVP> THAT IS WHY FREE CHOICE IS SO IMPORTANT
[20:54] <IsraelGuy1948> t\THE SATAE OF ISRAEL!
[20:54] <commhagesher> i agree with jill good is in teh eye of the beholder
[20:54] <IsraelGuy1948> yesterday~!
[20:54] <ilovepalestine_danny> i learned in tanach class that the reason G-d wanted to leave the Jews in the desert at one point, is because they used their free will wrong...BUT, if it's free will, how can it be used in the wrong way?
[20:54] <iampalestine> xactly hagsherxecvp
[20:54] <Stu_from_CHUSY> you can't have good without evil
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[20:54] <abby_yano> 13we have free will on a limited basis - the outcome will be the same, but the means at which we arrive at it are up to us ....which is where the evil comes from. the sole purpose of evil is to teach us lessons and to learn to appreciate good
[20:54] <IsraelGuy1948> who know when G-d stepped in! for all we know he was responsible for why that tree didnt fall on your house last night and kill you!
[20:54] <sami_jess> good is in the eye of the beholder but GD only htinks one thing is good, what HE thinks is good, we will never truely know
[20:54] <suziemayer> true israel guy
[20:54] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> we have free will on an UNLIMITED basis
[20:54] <Stu_from_CHUSY> whaoh israel guy
[20:54] <iampalestine> true stu..but i dont think that g-d created it..but i think that we did..humans i mean
[20:54] <suziemayer> we take a lot of things for granted
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[20:55] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> we can do what ever we want
[20:55] <Jason_Lustig> we miss a LOT of the miracles that take place
[20:55] <IsraelGuy1948> definetly
[20:55] <Hagalil_Dancer> yea - definitly
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[20:55] <sami_jess> we take for granted... a lot of the miricles... not necessarially miss themn
[20:55] <iampalestine> all the miracles happened in anciet times..now we make our own magic
[20:55] <Jason_Lustig> many miracles take place all the time, when God stepped in, but we take them forgranted
[20:55] <suziemayer> yea jason
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[20:55] <Stu_from_CHUSY> palestine: well, do you think that God created us?
[20:55] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> tru
[20:55] <Metnygirl> well we cant do everything we want we do have regulations
[20:55] <Jill> sami exactally so how do we know that by doing mitzvot & studing torah we are good & doing what is "right"
[20:55] <Stu_from_CHUSY> you know what i mean
[20:55] <iampalestine> yes
[20:55] <EMSTER> definitely, no one knows how to spell that word
[20:55] <Stu_from_CHUSY> well...
[20:55] <MFerman-ECRUSY> What appears to us to be suffering is ultimately for our own benefit (this is the halachic view). Even though we more often than not do not understand why we suffer, we believe that G-d knows what is best for us--even though we suffer and feel we do not "deserve" it.
[20:55] <iampalestine> i just think that he gave us life..and then we made good and evil
[20:55] <Stu_from_CHUSY> what word, emster?
[20:55] <Stu_from_CHUSY> hrm...
[20:55] <sami_jess> some miricles are small, untoticible....\
[20:55] <Stu_from_CHUSY> interesting theory
[20:55] <Hagalil_Dancer> i agree danny
[20:56] <Gregg> definetly :P
[20:56] <iampalestine> he created a perfect world..a paradise..and then we made the evil by biting into that apple..our own fre will
[20:56] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> me too
[20:56] <suziemayer> 04i sorta agree dan
[20:56] <IsraelGuy1948> Do you all think the state of Israel was actulally a product of pure humans? After thousands of years of bigotry, persecution, hatred, and massacre we finally had our home back to defend ourselves- how can that bwe limited to human power?
[20:56] <ilovepalestine_danny> amen danny
[20:56] <sami_jess> good point...
[20:56] <iampalestine> thank you
[20:56] <Stu_from_CHUSY> israel guy...
[20:56] <Stu_from_CHUSY> i agree totally
[20:56] <iampalestine> same
[20:56] <commhagesher> i am a true believe that everything that happens has a reason even if it is the worst thing in the world to happen
[20:56] <BICCIFIEDUDE11> yea
[20:56] <ilovepalestine_danny> I love you danny
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[20:56] <Stu_from_CHUSY> how could one tiny nation hold off the angry hordes?
[20:56] <iampalestine> same back 2 u tania
[20:56] <meg> parkie
[20:56] <suziemayer> whos i love pal_dany
[20:56] <Stu_from_CHUSY> a nation of settlers
[20:56] <Guest70115> everything that gd says is stated in torah and by us following everything he says, that is great, beacuse he wanted us to accomplisht that and take on the challenges throughtout life, like he did to create everything
[20:56] <iampalestine> tania..friend from canada
[20:57] <suziemayer> oh phat
[20:57] <Jason_Lustig> well i think the question is this
[20:57] * Stu_from_CHUSY slaps Jason_Lustig around a bit with a large trout
[20:57] <Stu_from_CHUSY> the question is: why did i slap jason?
[20:57] <MFerman-ECRUSY> Who is Guest70115?
[20:57] <Jason_Lustig> did God have a part in the creation of the modern state of Israel and its survival for the past 50 yaers?
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[20:57] <Stu_from_CHUSY> YES #4!!!
[20:57] <commhagesher> no
[20:57] <IsraelGuy1948> seriously- we talking about a nation of 5 million holding back a people of over 250 million that want to destroy it- IN WARS WITH SIX OTHERS nations - WE WON! that s not just human ingenuity1 therss somethign behuind the stste of Israel!
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[20:57] <Stu_from_CHUSY> JewLez!!!
[20:57] <abby_yano> 13harp time...laila
[20:57] <Julie_Chusy> o hey
[20:57] <Stu_from_CHUSY> i agree israel
[20:57] <Julie_Chusy> whats up?
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[20:57] <Gregg> well when dealing with miracles I think we have to look at the broader picture, Does G-d shape our lives or do we shape our own? We understand this concept of free choice with good and evil, however G-d created good and evil, so he must have had a reason for doing it... I think in order for miracles to take place that a imbalance in the equilibrium of good and evil takes place. A miracle makes up for dip towards the evil side, a tragedy besets too much
[20:57] <suziemayer> yea israewl
[20:58] <iampalestine> jess feiwus..hey
[20:58] <commhagesher> the heart of the people livign there and around the world who believe in an israeli state had alot to do with teh existense of israel
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[20:58] <jess_feiwus> hey
[20:58] <MFerman-ECRUSY> Why does G-d allow people into this world? And, if they are evil, why do they have to be quite so evil? These questions come to mind particularly in terms of the slavery of B'nei Yisrael in Mitzrayim and the Holocaust in our own time. Where does Divine intervention begin and end and where does evil on the part of the perpetrator begin?
[20:58] <Gregg> Israel may have won six wars, but look at the price...
[20:58] <Jill> more land & more conflict
[20:58] <iampalestine> i thnk that we shape our own definatly..when was the last time g-d steppeed into your life and changed everything aroudn?!?!? i don't rememgber that..all i know is that i make all my own decisions, and use his morals to help guide me..but all in all its up to me
[20:58] <Gregg> So many dead, and the cause is worth it, however did G-d intend for it to be this way?
[20:58] <suziemayer> u need good and evil everywhere, dont u see its the balance that makes ppl good
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[20:59] <commhagesher> israel does not even have that nuch more land it had before all the wars
[20:59] <Stu_from_CHUSY> yes it does
[20:59] <IsraelGuy1948> How do we know that g-d wasnt reposnsile for the END of the Holocaust! how do w3e know that all Jews wouldnt have been wiped out if He hadnt stepped in divinely?
[20:59] <Jason_Lustig> yes it does
[20:59] <Gregg> I know the last time god stepped into my life, it was yesterday
[20:59] <iampalestine> wars don't mean evil...
[20:59] <Jason_Lustig> the golan, the west bank...
[20:59] <sami_jess> how so gregg
[20:59] <Gregg> When I woke up the sun rose.
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[20:59] <iampalestine> wars aren't only for persecution
[20:59] <Guest70115> thats just the way life it , there are people that are evil and will always be evil, we have no doing in changing that. as a person they have the power to change themselves to be good.
[20:59] <Stu_from_CHUSY> again, Israel, i agree
[20:59] <Gregg> The night set
[20:59] <IsraelGuy1948> thnaks
[20:59] <commhagesher> yes but the west bank was "given back" teh the arabs
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[20:59] <Gregg> The stars churned
[20:59] <IsraelGuy1948> im glad we get along
[20:59] <sami_jess> that is true, a miricle we take for granted
[20:59] <iampalestine> according to us..g-d didn't do that..
[20:59] <EMSTER> israel guys is my brother, isn't he smart!
[20:59] <suziemayer> yea i really like lsrael guy
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[21:00] <ilovepalestine_danny> and I really like the palestine guy
[21:00] <Jill> palestine GD doesnt jsut step in and say hi im going 2 change everything but i think GD works in little helpfulways!
[21:00] <Jason_Lustig> it's a miracle that we consider was the product of humans
[21:00] <Gregg> According to others, g-d did
[21:00] <Guest70115> so we may never have an answer to why there are evil people and good people. we may never have the answer to why gd created evil and good
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[21:00] <Stu_from_CHUSY> Jill,
[21:00] <iampalestine> how can u justify that?
[21:00] <Gregg> I think the product of humans, is just an extension of g-d's power
[21:00] <Stu_from_CHUSY> then how did He create the world
[21:00] <sami_jess> GD works in mysterius ways...
[21:00] <sami_jess> sam cant spell
[21:00] <Stu_from_CHUSY> that is a BIG things
[21:00] <commhagesher> thanx U2
[21:00] <Gregg> and his greatness
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[21:00] <ilovepalestine_danny> lol @ Sam....
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[21:01] <ilovepalestine_danny> guys, htink of the megillah....G-ds name isn't mentioned once, but he was still there
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[21:01] <Metnygirl> G-d create human and we chose or ahve a some sort of feeling within that makes us wanbt to do certian things, but we can never understnad why we think the things we do
[21:01] <iampalestine> but we have our own concious...g-d is in the process of continual creation (g-d creates everything every microsecond by speech)..he's only creating..not changing our minds
[21:01] <MAs_Hero> seriously...
[21:01] <Stu_EPA> I think that GD used to create big things, but has eased up a bit lately. Letting us change the world on our own
[21:01] <MAs_Hero> haha good way to put it
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[21:01] <suziemayer> yea stu
[21:01] <iampalestine> true stu-epa
[21:01] <sami_jess> free will is another miricle...you know??
[21:01] <Gregg> Does everyone know of the Midrash where Rabbi Akiba and another Rabbi stood in the square of an ancient israeli town and debated on an issue
[21:01] <MAs_Hero> aaah i am going to get confused.
[21:01] <iampalestine> i don't think so samijess
[21:01] <Metnygirl> Maybe G-d doesnt do anything
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[21:01] <iampalestine> yes
[21:01] <sami_jess> its a miricle taht we have been blessed with the freedom to think freely
[21:01] <MAs_Hero> nope, gregg.
[21:01] <commhagesher> god fixes what needs to be fixes the torah shows us that when something has to be done by god god does it
[21:02] <Jill> can i jsut say i LOVE U STU!!
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[21:02] <MAs_Hero> feel free to finish
[21:02] <Gregg> You see g-d was on the side of akiba, but the other rabbi had the side of the people
[21:02] <iampalestine> i thin that's a given..not a miracle
[21:02] <IsraelGuy1948> Why is there evil in the world? Because we are humans with free divine choice! G-d knows and recongnizes that! the fa t of the matte ris that He gave us the Torah and his laws becayuse it is out responsability to not continue the cycle of evil- it is up to us to end it- tha
[21:02] <Gregg> It was g-d and akiba, vs. the rest of the town
[21:02] <sami_jess> i always say taht freedom of thought is the most important.. becasue without it, we wouldnt be different and.... well.... human
[21:02] <Stu_EPA> I love you too Jill (and I love EPA, and so do you)
[21:02] <Jason_Lustig> freedom is a good thing, but only up to a certain point
[21:02] <IsraelGuy1948> i gota go- good night AM YISRAEL CHAI!
[21:02] <Stu_EPA> are we sure that we have "free divine choice"?
[21:02] <MAs_Hero> oy geez
[21:02] <Hagalil_Dancer> i agree
[21:02] <Gregg> you see, in the end of all things, after g-d made rivers bend, brick walls fall down, and he demonstrated his power
[21:02] <MAs_Hero> i can't stay here
[21:02] <iampalestine> of course we do
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[21:02] <suziemayer> bye israel guy
[21:02] <Metnygirl> aite im out
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[21:02] <EMSTER> ira, you are going to sleep?
[21:02] <IsraelGuy1948> bye suzie
[21:02] <Jill> sigh i kno i kno (im runnin 4 chapter prez with lara)
[21:02] <sami_jess> what dio u mean by divine choice
[21:02] <iampalestine> bye
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[21:03] <EMSTER> bye iz
[21:03] <Justin_Hagalil> hey all
[21:03] <IsraelGuy1948> no, wrioting an essay cya
[21:03] <Gregg> the people still sided with the other rabbi
[21:03] <AmyGreen> hi justin
[21:03] <Gregg> and not akiba
[21:03] <iampalestine> hey justin..whats ur last name?
[21:03] <suziemayer> hey justin hagalil who r u
[21:03] <Gregg> because they had the choice too
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[21:03] <Justin_Hagalil> hirsch
[21:03] <EMSTER> what room are you in?
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[21:03] <commhagesher> god does not have the "time" to deal with everyones problems
[21:03] <Hagalil_Dancer> HAGALIL!!
[21:03] <EMSTER> nevermind
[21:03] <Stu_from_CHUSY> LIZ!!!
[21:03] <suziemayer> oh cool
[21:03] <Gregg> People in the end will follow their mind
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[21:03] <EMSTER> HI LIZ!!!!!!!
[21:03] <Stu_from_CHUSY> LIZZ!!!
[21:03] <ilovepalestine_danny> yay Hagalil! cough...cough
[21:03] <Hava_ECRUSY> Hi ECRUSYers !!! and everyone else...
[21:03] <commhagesher> and right now i'm having a hard time dealing with that
[21:03] <Justin_Hagalil> Justin Hirsch - Aberdeen chapter
[21:03] <Gregg> because g=d gave them the ability too
[21:03] <iampalestine> hahaha
[21:03] <iampalestine> very funny
[21:03] <Jason_Lustig> hey guys i have an idea
[21:03] <Jason_Lustig> we have a topic
[21:03] <Guest70115> we have free divine choice. we always have a choice of what to do and what to say, now of chourse g-d would want us to make the right choice , but we are human and dont' always
[21:03] <sami_jess> people will follow their thoughts because they have the freedom to think as they chiose
[21:03] <LIZexCHUSYsatovp> hi everybody -emmy!
[21:03] <suziemayer> im suzie mac edusy
[21:03] <iampalestine> yea hagalil
[21:03] <Cliel_from_ECRUSY> Hi Hava
[21:03] <EMSTER> I DON'T THINK GOD IS SUPPOSED TO DEAL WITH OUR PROBLEMS
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[21:03] <iampalestine> Livingston USY
[21:03] <Gregg> Oh well, that's my two cents
[21:04] <Hagalil_Dancer> edusy!
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[21:04] <ilovepalestine_danny> ya Livingston!
[21:04] <jess_feiwus> caldwell, hagalil
[21:04] <suziemayer> me neither ester
[21:04] <iampalestine> fo sho
[21:04] <EMSTER> LIZ! IM SO HAPPY YOU ARE HERE!
[21:04] <iampalestine> hey jess!
[21:04] <Stu_from_CHUSY> i have to say, CHUSY is repping
[21:04] <Hagalil_Dancer> edison, HAGALIL
[21:04] <xeon2500> 0907hehe
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[21:04] <Jill> justin hersh...rabbi WF25 00
[21:04] <ilovepalestine_danny> no...ecrusy's kickin!
[21:04] <iampalestine> guys lets get back on track
[21:04] <Justin_Hagalil> i think that we all have free will...G-d has a basic plan, but the choices are ours
[21:04] <DorschyBoy> any bus d 01?
[21:04] <AmyGreen> I'm from CHUSY :-D
[21:04] <CHUSYcomm> ya CHUSY!
[21:04] <jess_feiwus> bus D!
[21:04] <AmyGreen> yea let's
[21:04] <EMSTER> IRA (ISRAEL BOY) IS STANDING NXT TO ME, HE SAYD HI
[21:04] <iampalestine> true justin
[21:04] <Stu_from_CHUSY> love ya aim
[21:04] <Stu_from_CHUSY> hehe
[21:04] <suziemayer> me 2 justin
[21:04] <iampalestine> hi ira
[21:04] <CHUSYcomm> bus A 01!!!
[21:04] <AmyGreen> who is this "aim"?
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[21:04] <EMSTER> bus e 2001!!!!!!!!
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[21:05] <commhagesher> hagesher chapter of the year mizrach usy in cherry hill
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[21:05] <sami_jess> what is this +/- m thing???
[21:05] <iampalestine> josh!
[21:05] <BIZKWIKMAN> DAN!
[21:05] <Jason_Lustig> i'm trying to control the chat :)
[21:05] <iampalestine> yo
[21:05] <EMSTER> OKAY, GUYS, WHAT ABOUT DISABILITIES-DO YOU BELIEVE GOD CREATED PEOPLE WITH DIS.
[21:05] <suziemayer> hey joshie!
[21:05] <iampalestine> yea
[21:05] <Hagalil_Dancer> yay josh :)
[21:05] <BIZKWIKMAN> what up suzi
[21:05] <adina_indy> people with disabilities have their own unique qualities
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[21:06] <Hagalil_Dancer> hi josh!!!
[21:06] <BIZKWIKMAN> and jean?
[21:06] <EMSTER> AND IF SO, ARE THEY IN THE IMAGE OF GOD, OR ARE THEY DIFFERENT?
[21:06] <Hagalil_Dancer> i agree adina
[21:06] <xeon2500> 07If we don't have free will... then why else would we be here?
[21:06] <suziemayer> im talkin to u now!
[21:06] <feldy> hi gosh!
[21:06] <Justin_Hagalil> 2i think that G-d created disabilities to teach others that different is OK
[21:06] <sami_jess> that is hard to tell, is it GD created, or GD made something that didnt work, or that we dont understand
[21:06] <feldy> i mean josh
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[21:06] <EMSTER> GUYS?
[21:06] <LIZexCHUSYsatovp> I think g-d created peopel with disabilities to present them with a challenge,
[21:06] <BIZKWIKMAN> FELDMAN!
[21:06] <suziemayer> lol u said gosh!
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[21:06] <iampalestine> and me!
[21:06] <MFerman-ECRUSY> superjewgirl?
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[21:06] <sami_jess> in my opinion, everything is for a reason...
[21:06] <suziemayer> I LOVE HAGALIL
[21:06] <AmyGreen> i don't agree liz
[21:06] <Hagalil_Dancer> god pointe justin, - i def. agree
[21:06] <sami_jess> what is the reason
[21:06] <Jason_Lustig> well
[21:06] <adina_indy> G-d created them not with the intent to hurt their lives, but to help them see life in a different way
[21:06] <superjewgirl> hello all
[21:06] <suziemayer> everthing is for a reason
[21:06] <Hava_ECRUSY> being in the image of G-d doesn'tr neccesarily mean being perfect
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[21:06] <EMSTER> GUYS! WHAT DO YOU THINK?
[21:06] <Hagalil_Dancer> woops - i mean good
[21:06] <superjewgirl> hey michael
[21:06] <Jason_Lustig> it's different than someone who was born and then became a bad person
[21:06] <commhagesher> well what is perfecy?
[21:06] <Jason_Lustig> bc they were born that way
[21:07] <Justin_Hagalil> 2people with dissabilities are in G-d's image, but they are made different for a reason that only G-d knows
[21:07] <feldy> hi danny!
[21:07] <iampalestine> no..they were raised that way
[21:07] <Jill> 2JUSTIN HERSH I LOVE U NEVER CHANGE WHO U R!!!
[21:07] <iampalestine> hey rach!
[21:07] <LIZexCHUSYsatovp> peopl with disabilities see people in a different way, they are treated differently, adn that is a challenge ,and an insight
[21:07] <iampalestine> true
[21:07] <superjewgirl> I think that everyone has chalanges in life, and the goal is to learn from them
[21:07] <suziemayer> ppl rnt born bad, thats like the christian religion, ppl born with sin
[21:07] <xeon2500> 07God created the original man and woman, and gave free will. People with dissabilities are just medical inconsitancies.
[21:07] <Justin_Hagalil> 2who are u jill?
[21:07] <superjewgirl> and to learn from other people's chalanges
[21:07] <julibean18> i think everyone is perfect in G-d's eyes. He made you who you are to show everyone that people are different and different is beautiful.
[21:07] <superjewgirl> and to help them
[21:07] <EMSTER> MAYBE THEY ARE THE LUCKY ONES, BC THEY APPRECIATE WHAT THEY HAVE
[21:07] <julibean18> you shouldn't deny it, you should embrace it.
[21:07] <commhagesher> what about mental disabitities that arent obvously like depression
[21:07] <xeon2500> 07EVERYONE?
[21:07] <AmyGreen> I don't agree that it's ever a good thing to have a disability - and saying that GOd created people that way to "give them a challenge" or to help them "see the world in a different way" is like syaing that a disability is a good hting
[21:07] <feldy> huh?
[21:07] <EMSTER> AND ODN'T TAKE THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS FOR GRANTED
[21:07] <sami_jess> people who have challenges through life are many times stronger... maybe GD wanted these ppl strongert for a reaseon
[21:07] <wahinee75> i agree with xeon
[21:07] <Jill> brenner WF25
[21:07] <BIZKWIKMAN> 10OLD SCHOOL LITE BLUE!
[21:07] <Guest70115> its very hard to understand the concept gd tried to get through. we don't know if he created disabillities, i mean disabillites normally come through birth. Well think about how adam and eve were made. gd decided to make them without disabillites, he could have made them with prombles and so forth
[21:07] <iampalestine> wow this is so fast..can't keep up w/all of it
[21:08] <EMSTER> I AGREE
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[21:08] <Justin_Hagalil> 2oh, cool!
[21:08] <feldy> 7yea josh!
[21:08] <BIZKWIKMAN> TOO FAST!!!!!!
[21:08] <xeon2500> 0703BSR!
[21:08] <LIZexCHUSYsatovp> if you dont agree see emmys arguments
[21:08] <adina_indy> bye everyoen
[21:08] <superjewgirl> lol, I agree with iampalestine
[21:08] <iampalestine> toodles
[21:08] <xeon2500> 03bye
[21:08] <LIZexCHUSYsatovp> it is good not to take things for granted,
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[21:08] <iampalestine> thank you superjewgirl
[21:08] <bsr21918> herr berliner, wie geht's?
[21:08] <iampalestine> lol
[21:08] <BIZKWIKMAN> TOODLES YO!
[21:08] <suziemayer> in bio i am doing evolution and i take pysch so these questions come up a lot
[21:08] <Gregg> I9 Know 7The Answer
[21:08] <iampalestine> toodles
[21:08] <ilovepalestine_danny> iampalestine....you're smart...you can keep up!
[21:08] <LIZexCHUSYsatovp> a disability is in no way good, but it is just different,
[21:08] <iampalestine> lol
[21:08] <iampalestine> thanks
[21:08] <suziemayer> lol bye dan
[21:08] <Hagalil_Dancer> bye josh
[21:08] <iampalestine> i'm not out..josh is
[21:08] <LIZexCHUSYsatovp> it is a disability COMPARED to others,
[21:08] <suziemayer> oh i mean josh
[21:08] <superjewgirl> anytime
[21:08] <julibean18> but who said differnt is bad?
[21:08] <BIZKWIKMAN> what?
[21:08] <iampalestine> it isn't...its unique
[21:08] <Justin_Hagalil> no one
[21:08] <sami_jess> different is different.....
[21:08] <BIZKWIKMAN> i'm not out!
[21:09] <LIZexCHUSYsatovp> whern one sense in weakened the others are strengthened,
[21:09] <ilovepalestine_danny> different isn't bad! it's fun!
[21:09] <superjewgirl> different is not bad
[21:09] <superjewgirl> it's good,
[21:09] <Jason_Lustig> but if it makes them less able to do things than others, then why did God create them like that?
[21:09] <Justin_Hagalil> different is good...its different
[21:09] <LIZexCHUSYsatovp> theat teh optomistic me
[21:09] <Guest70115> no one ever said that different is bad
[21:09] <AmyGreen> While I agree that it's not good to take things for granted, if no one in the world had a disability, would it ever really occur to us that sight, hearing, etc. should just be taken for granted?
[21:09] <shmuel> no one said different is bad, they said the opposite
[21:09] <sami_jess> if nothing were different, everything would be the same... i know that sobvious but really thin about
[21:09] <xeon2500> 03He didn't?
[21:09] <Jason_Lustig> why didn't God just create everyone without any sort of disability?
[21:09] <sami_jess> it
[21:09] <Hagalil_Dancer> i think being different is totally unique
[21:09] <superjewgirl> maybe so that we could learn compassion
[21:09] <Jason_Lustig> i think being different is good
[21:09] <iampalestine> true
[21:09] <iampalestine> good call d
[21:09] <Guest70115> now it is bad to treat the different people without respect, just because they aren't created normal and without problems
[21:09] <superjewgirl> so that we could learn to help them, and to be thankful for what we do have
[21:09] <feldy> i think being different can be good or bad
[21:09] <suziemayer> who said being disabled it a bad thing
[21:09] <iampalestine> brb
[21:09] <LIZexCHUSYsatovp> xeon are you from CHUSY?
[21:09] <Jason_Lustig> but why would God create people with disabilities or other things that set them back fromt eh beginning?
[21:09] <commhagesher> everyone has a disability of some sort but not a